Hello 
I'm Siobhan Curran/Kisa Naumova, and this is my weblog. I tend to write about stuff like crossdressing, Macs, code, cats, wine and Second Life, but in general it's just an ongoing conversation about all sorts of stuff. If you'd like to know a little bit more about what this all is, I recommend starting on this page which has a little bit of info on who I am, and what I'm trying to do — or you could dive into my five years worth of archives if you like.
Otherwise, feel free to close this box and explore...
Lecture Notes
Bugger. Reality ![]()
I should point out here, before I even start on this, that this might end up being a bit weird. I've a vague notion in my head that seeing as Postgraduate students are, by their very nature, mature and sensible beings, that I might just end up using myself as an example in what I'm doing tomorrow night.
In which case, they're going to see this.
Hi Dave. Hi Pete. Hi Ben. /me waves.
(Ben is now staring at me. How off-putting)
See, the thing I have very intention about talking about tomorrow night, is how different the general perception about "the web" is to those of us who live on it.
To some extents, most of the world is stuck in the idea of the HomePage. For a lot of people, the development of the internet stops with Geocities.
But it's come a long way since then.
Now, maybe I'm being a little unfair here. Maybe, perhaps, my disdain for The Public At Large™ is exactly the thing that will be my undoing one of these days, but in my experience, when I talk to people about the "Online", I'm usually met with either blank faces, or some kind of mismashed perception that has its roots in a William-Gibson-Cyberspace meets Information-Superhighway ball of cliché
In general, when I talk to art students about doing things "Online" (which I will be capitalising and putting in inverted commas for the entirety of this post BTW), the immediate response I get runs alongs the lines of "I want to make a website so I can put my work online and then people will look at it and then buy it and then comment on it and I will be famous and rich".
I dunno. The idea of the web as somewhere you "put" things is dead, IMHO. The "publishing" metaphor is irrelevant, I feel. It has a publisher->consumer attitude that I don't feel applies anymore.
Let me try and use myself as an example here.
This isn't a website. Really, it's not. It's a conversation.
If it were a website then it would be more akin to a monologue — but that's not the point of it.
It was really interesting talking to Miss K about one or two things this weekend. Not least the discussion we had about the completely different ways we approach this webloggin' malarky.
She thinks about what she writes. She takes time to read through, correct spelling, prepare ideas — that sort of thing. As a result, her writing is beautiful. Every post she makes is a carefully woven tapestry of text. Whether she's reminiscing about her band, or just throwing a short clump of links out there, you know that she's agonised over each and every word. Each and every punctuation mark.
Me? I just sit at the keyboard and go Bleurrrrrrrrgh.
K writes. I talk. That's the difference.
See, for me, there have been one or two moments of utter revelation in the history of this weblog (nearly 4 years — I'm thinking of having a party BTW). The two key moments, in the context of what I want to talk about specifically, are (a) the day I wrote the first part of the script, and (b) the day I wrote the comment script.
(There has, of course, been about a hundred other days of either adding to the script, or writing new scripts — but I'll gloss over them for a second)
The first one, is perhaps, the most significant — at least in the context of what I want to talk about tomorrow. Up until October 2002, I wrote each diary page by hand in Dreamweaver.
Now personally, I blame Dreamweaver for a lot that is wrong with the web at the moment. See, I have come to the conclusion that there is a perception (you may disagree with me here, but that's OK — you're still wrong) that the web is some kind of proprietary Macromedia format. Almost daily, someone will come up to me and say "I want to make a website, but I don't know/have Dreamweaver. Can you help?"
And obviously, my net-savvy readership, we all know that the web is just text. You don't need a hulking-great monstrosity like Dreamweaver to make a web page. But this "I need software X to make thing Y" attitude is pervasive throughout digital media:
"If I knew Photoshop, I could take great pictures", "If I knew Word, I could write a novel".
And the assumed-relationship between the Web and Dreamweaver is just as estsablished.
But the Web isn't about that anymore. Doing stuff "Online" (told you
) can take many forms — it isn't about putting HTML pages together.
For example, this weekend, a bunch of us went to Birmingham. It was a bunch of people whose main connection was a series of links on a map that I made. It was a bunch of people that even though we might have known of each other through other means, our main reason for attending was because we were linked to (or linked by) someone in a tight bunch of people who use "Online" tools to write about stuff.
And, of course, true to our nature, we recorded such event in various "Online" ways:
K and I were uploading pictures of it as it happened. The minute each of us got back home we all wrote about it. And even before the event happened Becky had set up some resources to pool everything together afterwards so we could all see what went on.
(Nice montage Becks
Just out of interest, was that anything to do with what Tom was talking about this morning?)
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But I'm straying from the point a bit perhaps ![]()
Basically, what I'm getting at here is that we didn't all go home, fire up Dreamweaver, and craft a few nested tables to share what happened. We just stuck it "Online".
The way the Web works these days, it's not about designing things — it's about doing things.
This whole weblog is based on a series of scripts I've written over the course of four years, that let me put things here as easily as possible. WHen I started writing, I maybe wrote (if you were lucky) one thing a month. But as soon as I made it easy to write, I started doing it every day.
And this is something that I feel sometimes eludes artists and designers when they start to think about using "Online" forms of expression. They get so involved in the look of something, without really taking much of an interest in what's actually going on in the space, that they get left behind.
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Of course, I'm probably totally wrong on that one, but before anyone pulls me up and shouts at me for not really knowing what I'm talking about, let me totally change the subject and talk about the other most significant thing that happened in the evolution of this here blog...
Comments. Ah, lovely sweet happy comments ![]()
I'm very proud of my comments. I know I say this over and over again, but I still think they're fucking unique. Seriously — someone point me to a weblog that does them the same way as me, and I'll eat my, um, stockings.
But that's not the issue really. The issue is one of interaction and audience.
See, when I first started this, I had no idea who I was writing this for. I suppose I just wanted to get down in some form what went on in my life. But after I wrote the OctoberScript (which it will be hereafter called), I started getting emails and IMs and stuff that hinted that people actually read this shit.
That was an eyeopener in itself, but it wasn't until I wrote the comment script that things got really interesting.
Because that's when this became a dialogue. That's when this became a collaborative space.
And ever since then, this notion of collaboration — and, to a degree, a notion of audience has been very important for me. It's about sharing — and sharing with the specific intent of hearing what else is going on.
And that's (I feel) what makes the Web at the moment so interesting. It's the two-way interaction, rather than the old-style "broadcast" model of publishing. It opens up so many doors to collaboration and discussion — in a way that top-down publishing just can never achieve.
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I have no idea what's going to come out of the discussion tomorrow. (Ha! "Come out"!
) But I think it might be interesting.
The one two things that I would say though, is that (a) This is not a well written piece, and (b) Tom wrote about this *ages8 ago, and put it better than myself. Damm him.
" It's the two-way interaction, rather than the old-style "broadcast" model of publishing."
I agree. You often end up with a new topic or at least add some more text based on what is contained in the comments that you get. Not that there is anything wrong with the "broadcast" style if you have a real reason to do things that way, but doing that way just because is dumb.
BTW, do you have any books you'd recommend on script writing etc.? I took a year of programming (C++) junior year of high school, but that's about all I've got. Just enough to make me interested in the technical stuff you post, but not enough that I actually understand any of it. ![]()
Glad to see you had an Apocaliptic Saturday Night.
Aye
And as usual, April manages to capture my entire night on film...
(Note to self: Add attribution in the morning)
Dreamweaver? — PAH! What's wrong with plain old notepad.exe
Steph Jones
"(Nice montage Becks Just out of interest, was that anything to do with what Tom was talking about this morning?)"
No, that's entirely coincidental. But I agree with him 100%. Putting together that montage using Flickr's current tools was incredibly fiddly and time consuming!
"Dreamweaver? — PAH! What's wrong with plain old notepad.exe" — absolutely nothing at all, IMHO, Steph — great way to get to grips with the code, makes you learn it the hard way, at least it helped some of the stuff stick in my brain cells, although 3 years was enough for me to appreciate the "Design" view that Dreamweaver offers. OK, so some will say I sold out. ![]()
What's this DreamWeaver stuff? Going beyond Notepad means learning something more to do what I could do already.
But maybe I'm just a masochistic programmer.
Serena Mayfly
notepad!!! I use the power of my mind to write recursive machine code. And I'm not interested in comments, so there!
super glad you like the photos — film grain is my drug.
Rachel, you've sold out.
Text editors are the only way to code.
I used Dreamweaver once (after I had been mucking around with websites for a year or two) and that once was enough to make me hate it for ever. This was only reinforced when I had to unpick someone else's Dreamweaver produced work (all via the WYSISYG view). Surfice to say that the end result was a lot sleeker then what I'd started with.
I've used Dreamweaver once. And I don't intend to use it again. I intend to use proper coding, which I don't know. And that is why I do not try.
BAH. That wasn't even what I wanted to say. I wanted to say that I totally understand the monologue aspect of blogging. Once upon a time, I treated my main blog like a diary, and looking back, it was shit.
October 2002: "I took the PSAT today, and it was surprisingly easy.
Much easier than the practice tests we were taking in
class. The math sections reminded me strangely of the grad
exam. That can't be good."
Boring. Boring crap.
But now that I know I have 5+ readers out there...well, it's more of a conversation. I totally get it. I never thought of it like that, mind you, but that's really what it is. I ask questions, I get responses...it's a beautiful thing, really.
Of course, my other blog is still very much so a diary. So. That one has time to grow. And it apparently has at least three readers. So it may become a conversation in itself very soon. Hey, three people concerned with little old me? I guess I'm always up for an audience.
Hmm, I don't know about coding and that, but I do know I nearly messed up and tried to ash my glass of wine and drink my ashtray reading all this tonight. ![]()
Rachel T Williams
I'm more like K when I blog, but every kind of writing and talking has a purpose in blog land. I was gushing about your blog to muh pardner the other day, saying that I love how your entries are like launch pads and your comments are part of a discussion instead of only being accessible via a "comments" link. You do have a unique setup here and I really enjoy reading everything you and your commenters have to say.
Lindsay
she's agonised over each and every word
Steady on! you make me sound like I'm cracking one off when I write
All I said was I'm jealous of people like you who can write and express in an unpremeditated fashion like you because I just can't be spontaneous like that.
But I really do appreciate what you say, that someone who hones their writing has other pleasures to offer. Though my objective is still the same. Weblogging is social, not publishing.
You've done something really clever here by subverting the daily unit of writing into something that follows linear time. And that enables a much more conversational model. I've not seen that anyplace else.
Not even the very clever Tom Coates'.
Wait... is this whole post just another attempt to cause a bump in Tom's stats? ![]()
The problem with the dialogue that online enables is that, much like RW dialogue — so much of it is utter crap — which ironically brings us back to a notion of 'good quality' dialogues which have credibility, much like traditional 'published' media, and have 'authority' (tranniefesto — the BBC of blogs...!)
JoH
Yeah can I just agree with JoH there. I hope we're not getting into a George Orwell type "social good, publishing bad" thing. Just because the tools are easily available and workable it doesnt mean the quality will get better. people are still lazy. And shit is shit whether its social or publishing.
I'm a publisher, because thats what works for me and my content. I could make it social somehow, but I'm not really interested in that, I prefer my site to be a self-contained wellspring or source. I invite and promote linkage and borrowage (via the creative commons license) and gleefully enjoy finding my work spread out over the net. However my site may not be social but I (as an online identity) am. I vigourously comment on others blogs, and spread my own thought processes (with linkback) around. If people find me interesting they can follow me home(page).....
Damm there was a point in there somewhere.
i have no idea what dreamweaver is, but geocities got me right into the net.
great second pic,.
Machine code? Pah I write my entire blog by rubbing two bits of live wire together.
"To some extents, most of the world is stuck in the idea of the HomePage. For a lot of people, the development of the internet stops with Geocities.
But it's come a long way since then."
I'd agree. There was a time when the entry point was Geocities, but I think it's Blogspot nowadays — we've moved on from 'my first homepage' to 'my first blog'.
"The idea of the web as somewhere you 'put' things is dead, IMHO. The 'publishing' metaphor is irrelevant, I feel. It has a publisher->consumer attitude that I don't feel applies anymore."
I'd disagree. That's your view of the web, but it's not mine, and I'm not sure which of us is closer to the general opinion/trend.
I certainly publish to readers, rather than share with collaborators. Oversimplifying, my site is, deliberately, a monologue which welcomes comments. However, that's a matter of intent, and apart from your 'inline' comments setup, I doubt there's much material difference between the two approaches — both offer readers a block of text to read and possibly to which to respond.
Outside blogging, I'd say the web is still primarily (not exclusively) one-way, 'shop-window' sites outnumbering, or being more prominent to the general, non-technical population than, 'community' sites.
Maybe you are describing a developing trend, but I don't think we've reached 'publishing is dead' yet.
No offence, but in saying "the way the Web works these days..." I think you're only saying "the way I and my acquaintances use the Web these days...".
I certainly publish to readers, rather than share with collaborators.
Yes, but you're taking the word "publish" out of the context I was using it in — which is totally my fault for not pulling my head out of a Dreamweaver-based rant, and using words that need more elaboration.
By "publishing metaphor", I was meaning a very print-based approach — with its roots in the early days of the web's attitude that it would replace print-based mediums. I meant "static" perhaps more than I meant "publishing-based".
Sorry.
I guess what I was trying to get across, was the idea of seperating content from structure — but perhaps described in a clumsy way.
hmmmm...if thats the case why do you direct your readers into a 500px wide space no matter the width of their browser? Shouldn't your design scale to window size, like some other site I could mention?
Or am I taking your print metaphor too literally?
Perhaps its not about separating content from structure (which is a technical approach) but it's about NOT separating content from responsibility (which is a humanistic and usability approach). The responsibility to maintain an up-to-date, clear and well-directed site regardless of implementation or collaborative options. No matter the type of content, I think that all good sites fall into this category.
The fact that a site is static (and by this I mean neglected) or not is, I feel, not so much to do with the technology as it is the person behind it.
I have to suffix my comments by saying that I am hopelessly addicted to the "Tranniefesto thing" — but I am sensible enough to know that I couldn't do a site even remotely as good as this. So I stay out of this approach and go with what I am good at. That way I can maintain my own level of responsibility.





Siobhan, just want to say Dreamweaver is brilliant! It makes it so easy to find the place in the code where I want to be, so I can get on with the coding...
Click "Design" view, place the cursor where you want to be, flick back to "Code" view and carry on coding. Although since switching to xhtml/css the pages are alot smaller!
But I really can't understand your comments about writing table stuff as you gave that up years ago, didn't you?
Moving on, you're so right about folk getting bogged down in the design of the thing. It drives me insane when folk get given a straightforward CMS and then complain that it doesn't let them do what Dreamweaver was designed for.
These guys run businesses, they shouldn't be fucking around with design and code, they should be writing and managing the content, or have staff who are editors/managing editors to do a professional job.
Another thing that amazes me is website owners total fixation on believing they have a god-given right to be in google's first ten results for their "ideal" keywords, even when Google finds 26,000,000 pages to return — jeez, give me a break. And then they won't even spend a modest amount to have decent code written to give themselves a decent foundation on which to base an SEO strategy. Drives me nuts.
They need to read something like Gerry McGovern's "Content Critical" and wake-up and smell the humous.
Going to reheat my cuppa and let the blood pressure subside. Spot on again Siobhan, you smug git.
Glad to see you had an Apocaliptic Saturday Night.